BETWEEN US: The Communication Project

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When Understanding Breaks Down – Between Us: The Communication Project

Every day, we speak with the belief that our meaning is obvious — that the words we choose will land the way we intend.But meaning doesn’t travel intact. It’s built in real time, shaped by emotion, history, uncertainty, and the tiny slivers of information people actually receive.And when understanding breaks down, the consequences aren’t just confusion — they’re mistrust, fear, and the sense that institutions or individuals “aren’t being clear,” even when everyone is trying their best.On this episode of Between Us, we explore why misunderstanding is so common, why clarity is so fragile, and how people and organizations can rebuild alignment when messages drift.In This EpisodeWhy two people can hear the same message and walk away with entirely different interpretationsHow uncertainty, fear, and cognitive load shape the way families and communities “fill in the gaps”Why information alone isn’t enough — and why communication must be relational, not transactionalWhat sensemaking looks like inside school systems and public agenciesThe role of repair in communication: how to rebuild trust after misalignmentJoy’s practical insights from working in districts where clarity is essential, and misunderstanding has real stakesThis Episode’s GuestJoy Moyers is a Public Information Officer based in Orange County, California. She works in K–12 public education, helping districts navigate complex communication challenges — from everyday updates to high-stakes moments involving safety, policy changes, and family concerns.Joy holds an M.S. in Public Relations, Innovation, Strategy & Management from the University of Southern California (USC). Her work draws on systems theory, relational communication, and sensemaking to help organizations understand how messages land, how interpretations form, and how to rebuild clarity when breakdowns occur. She believes communication is not merely the transmission of information, but a social process that shapes trust, culture, and community alignment.Resources & LinksRecommended reading on systems theory, sensemaking, and organizational communication (curated at thecommproject.com)Follow Between Us wherever you listen to podcastsHost / Producer: Travis SoudersGuest: Joy Moyers© 2025 The Comm Project

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Communication shapes everything: our relationships, politics, media, workplaces, and our sense of self.

Between Us embraces the ongoing curiosity behind why and how humans communicate the way we do.

Hosted by Travis Souders, MA, this show shares the eye-opening work of communication experts and how it can help us make sense of the powerful yet delicate task of connecting with each other.

Because everything says something. Figuring it out together is all part of the great human communication project.